http://www.civiltonguesaustralia.com/2009/08/25/ex-police-officer-wants-to-ban-drunkeness/ A civil discussion of policing, libertarian thought, civil liberties and the media Mon, 30 Aug 2010 20:00:18 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://www.civiltonguesaustralia.com/2009/08/25/ex-police-officer-wants-to-ban-drunkeness/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Amy Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:44:21 +0000 http://www.civiltonguesaustralia.com/?p=51#comment-5 Exactly! I completely agree. Although as someone who has done a lot of barwork over the years it can be hard to really enforce RSA when you have a large number of patrons. I think smaller bars but also maybe we need education and programs to change the culture at a more grass-roots levels (like colleges, sporting clubs, etc) - though it is very hard to tell whther these types of "education" programs actually work... Exactly! I completely agree. Although as someone who has done a lot of barwork over the years it can be hard to really enforce RSA when you have a large number of patrons. I think smaller bars but also maybe we need education and programs to change the culture at a more grass-roots levels (like colleges, sporting clubs, etc) – though it is very hard to tell whther these types of “education” programs actually work…

]]> http://www.civiltonguesaustralia.com/2009/08/25/ex-police-officer-wants-to-ban-drunkeness/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Tony Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:29:58 +0000 http://www.civiltonguesaustralia.com/?p=51#comment-4 As an ex-copper myself, I can say that this sort of ambiguous law just makes life difficult for the poor cop on the street. These laws are bought in with much fanfare by the pollies with little or no thought on how they will actually be put into practice. There are already a set of "offensive conduct/language/behaviour" offences which are ambiguous enough and are frequently thrown out of court. Alcohol related violence is definitely a big problem but locking up everyone who has had one too many is not the answer. I think a tightening of the liquor licencing laws is required - responsible service of alcohol is, in my experience, rarely enforced. As an ex-copper myself, I can say that this sort of ambiguous law just makes life difficult for the poor cop on the street. These laws are bought in with much fanfare by the pollies with little or no thought on how they will actually be put into practice. There are already a set of “offensive conduct/language/behaviour” offences which are ambiguous enough and are frequently thrown out of court. Alcohol related violence is definitely a big problem but locking up everyone who has had one too many is not the answer. I think a tightening of the liquor licencing laws is required – responsible service of alcohol is, in my experience, rarely enforced.

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